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Episode 149 The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide for Life Beyond the Couch

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Startup Nation, Meet:
Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
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Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy are both Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists in the Los Angeles area and co-hosts of The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide Podcast. They are also the creators of the Therapy Reimagined Conference - bringing together #moderntherapists to talk about how to build practices that welcome diversity, integrate technology and business systems, engage in advocacy for our profession, and how to grow yourself as a clinician by incorporating deliberate practice and self-care.


They have both created successful private practices and are actively involved in the profession in many ways.


Curt and Katie provide training and consultation to therapists who are entering the profession, starting and growing a therapy practice, and who are ready to step into leadership, all while navigating #moderntherapistproblems. You can learn more about their work at

Show Notes:
  1. Therapy training is broken

  2. You don't have to be unethical to be innovative in our field

  3. There are some pretty darn funny #moderntherapistproblems that people just don't talk about.

  4. There is hope in the field - we just have to reimagine therapy.

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Are you feeling stuck, overwhelmed and frustrated not knowing where to start or how to grow and scale your private practice. You’ve spent years in school and a ton of money getting your degree, but you weren’t taught about the necessary branding, marketing, and entrepreneurial skills needed to be successful in private practice.


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Meet Your Co-Hosts:

What’s up #StartupNation!?! We’re so excited you’re here. In case you’re new to our community, I’m Dr. Kate Campbell, LMFT (on the right) and my business partner aka “BP” Katie Lemieux, LMFT is on the left.


We both built our thriving, 6-figure full-fee private practices from the ground up and love inspiring ambitious mental health professionals across the globe to brand themselves and grow their dream private practice!

We have a blast co-hosting the podcast! We look forward to inspiring you from startup to mastery!

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